Things everyone should know about marijuana

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:58pm

Wow, you have your facts together...I am sorry I messed with the weed king Rolling Eyes

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REAL REASON THEY DONT LEAGLIZE WEED
the government cant control weeed they tryed in 1940 to 1955 but ppl grew it in there back yards so they made it illegal. see the government needs to controle all product and make a tax on it and if u grew it urself how can there be a tax on it right. y they had in 1944 a weed factory called rollos but no one bought it after 1945 the buissness whent under within 8 months
so u see they would leagilize marijuana if they could tax it.

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(double post)

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ok smart-asses; since you know oh-so-much about this plant, tell me this. How can people put something in their mouth that looks like, and smells worse than my shit?

i have never tried weed, simply cuz i do what i like, i dont try to be cool. Drinking hurts, and i dont like the taste of many drinks, so i dont (ya ya say what u want) drink. weed is the same deal.

oh and martini you shouldnt believe everything you read.
e.g
studys show that cancer is healthy for you. let me go write up 12 pages convincing you to go get cancer. its not that hard now is it. well 12 pages is quite lengthy but still anyone can write anything for ppl like you to read it.

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 1:07am

you are a good man ultimo. but martini, how did i come to my conclusion? oh i dont know maybe its because youve got a WALKING WEED PLANT AS YOUR AVATAR! hahahaha. i just thought that was funny. if you dont, then say the caps in the chris farley yelling voice and youll think its funny too. Smile

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 11:51am

ultimo101 wrote:

oh and martini you shouldnt believe everything you read.
e.g
studys show that cancer is healthy for you. let me go write up 12 pages convincing you to go get cancer. its not that hard now is it. well 12 pages is quite lengthy but still anyone can write anything for ppl like you to read it.

Don't post unless you read the whole thread. I posted all the sources of that FAQ. So basically what I stated IS TRUE.

Oh and Pimpjuices post was probably the most intellegent post out of him yet. I'm not sure about all that stuff about it being legal in 1940, but he is right about how the government can't tax it. Fact is they make money off of it being illegal, each little person they bust for weed is another fine they have to pay and more money for the government.

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I've always thought anti-pot propaganda was more annoying than pro-pot propaganda, but that's because you don't generally see pro-pot marijuana on TV, or at least I don't.

I don't really know jack about the health concerns or whatnot with marijuana, so I won't really comment on that. Seems like it's probably not half as detrimental to one's health as they make it out to be in school or TV ads/web sites, I wouldn't know though. Somehow, I doubt it's as dangerous as cigarette smoke, but shoving smoke of any type into your lungs doesn't sound all that healthy to me either.

Personally, I never understood why weed is illegal, when smoking and alcohol are not. Why is it illegal? The most plausible reason I can think of is that it could lead to stronger drugs, yet that doesn't really seem like much of a reason to make it completely prohibited.

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they can tax beer. you can make that in your back yard... if you live in the south you can grow your own tobacco, they tax that too.

people just dont all just make their own because its easier and faster to go buy it yourself.

saying that it is because they couldnt tax weed is pretty retarded. They could require a licence to sell it, arresst you for selling it without a licence, then have a tax on sales of it same with alcohol and cigarettes. They dont legalize it because there are places like salt lake city where 99% of the population is mormon and have 6.2 billion kids, and you know they would shit their pants if someone even mentioned making weed legal around them. Maybe if someone tried to bring it down to a state by state level you would get places like nevada and california making weed legal... but they would raise a stink about that too. And i doubt all the TRUTH campaign things, even though techinically unrelated to weed, are doing a good job of helping the image of something you put in your mouth and set on fire.

saying it is because they cant tax it also conflicts with section 3 part (11) of the faq
where the author seems to think it would be quite easy to sell it over the counter as opposed to on street corners and playgrounds.

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11) I don't want children (minors) to be able to smoke marijuana. How can I stop this? Legalize it. They can smoke it now; it is about as easy to get as alcohol. There would be less marijuana being sold in schools, playgrounds, and street corners, though, if it was sold legally through pharmacies -- because the dealers would not be able to compete with the prices.

also kinda funny that dealers would not be able to compete with the prices... since they would charge out the ass for retail.

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yea u can make beer in the backyard but its illegal to do its have verry server concquences i would rather get caught with 60 lbs of weed then get caught with a burriry im my backyard. 40 years in prison and a 1 milliondollor fine due to endanguring urself and a five blockradious maybemore anyway no one is aloude to make beer unless u get a lisense to start a beer company witch the government loves when that happends. means more drinkers and more money. in both ways u crash u owe the government more money
u go to jail or have to pay a fine if cought waling with alcohole. its all about money with the government.

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Is it Legal?
The number one question that customers ask is.... "Is it legal? Can I make my own beer, wine and spirits without breaking the law?" The answer is YES! Since October 1996 it is completely legal to make your own beer, wine and spirits at your private house for your own consumption. What is illegal, is the SELLING of homemade beer, wine and spirits. If you want to sell homemade beer, wines and spirits you will have to be set up a registered company and pay tax.

source : http://www.bininn.co.nz/brewingbrewingFrameset.htm

although there are a bazillion home brew web sites / publications

so, yea, you can make beer for yourself, like i said.

seems weird you cant grow your own weed then for your own personal use, if you can make some other poison for your own personal use Smile

Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 12:15pm

Im staying far away from this discussion. I will say this however. Allot of you are very uneducated on this topic. Which is how most people would like you to remain. Martini, you are arguing "some" good points, but unfortunatly you are not doing it correctly. This is a topic like many, that you must really know what you are talking about. Not what someone else is stating without much backed up facts.

There are so many shades of grey in this pro/con debate which just can not be leveled out in a forum.
I will say this however. Its kinda like the debate on abortion.(not comparing the actual two but the structure of the two). A man arguing about abortion is a faint one. Those arguing about this who have no direct connection is very weak as well.

The most violent element in society is and will probably always be....... Ignorance.

Its all politics anyways.

Hell, most excentric pot smokers would tell a person like Martini to shut the hell up. Why? Because of the serious funk they grow in their house for their own personal use. They would like any and all spot lights to be taken off the topic.

Just dont take this all too far. Pot smokers and non pot smokers can all get along.
You would be suprised however by the amount of very succesful people I have met in my business adventures, including doctors, engineers, Judges, and Health fitness professioinals that all smoke the canibus. Not at work of course.

One more side that has not been brought up. Has anyone seen the annual income of the US D.E.A.. How much money is brought in by nabbing the dealers and ALL of their properties alledgedly paid for by "drug money". You may see a persuasive side for keeping drugs illegal..... and why is that you may ask??????

Because....

Money is the pimp.

Remeber Prohibition. Its a damn good thing that took place so many years ago when the goverment wasnt as tactical. Imagine how much money they would make nabbing beer makers and their properties.

Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 12:53pm

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Why is it illegal

i think it was something along the lines of cannibus was becomming a major cash crop.
it was on its way to being the number 1 cash crop in america.
of course other industries didnt like this, and bought off the government (which isnt hard to do) and made it illegal.

thats the basics, you can look up the specifics pretty easy

Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 2:33pm

pimpjuice wrote:

REAL REASON THEY DONT LEAGLIZE WEED
the government cant control weeed they tryed in 1940 to 1955 but ppl grew it in there back yards so they made it illegal. see the government needs to controle all product and make a tax on it and if u grew it urself how can there be a tax on it right. y they had in 1944 a weed factory called rollos but no one bought it after 1945 the buissness whent under within 8 months
so u see they would leagilize marijuana if they could tax it.

are you saying because i grow tomatoes and other stuff in my backyard it needs to be either taxed or illegal?
grow up...

i believe that if you havnt tried the good 'ol bud, then dont complain about it, it shouldnt be bothering you that people like to smoke the goold 'ol bud in their free time...

Grow up and get over it

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nope never tryed it but if it was legal i would anyway tomatoes that get sould in stores or sould in quantaties get taxed that is what i metn tomatoes homegrow is nothing for personal use i mean

Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 5:00pm

pimpjuice wrote:

nope never tryed it but if it was legal i would anyway tomatoes that get sould in stores or sould in quantaties get taxed that is what i metn tomatoes homegrow is nothing for personal use i mean

good god man, use punctuation and grammar
i didnt understand anything you just said

Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 5:07pm

lol, i was going to ask him to retype that

Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 12:44pm

Here is my thought on why it is illegal, and it makes perfect since.

First off NoS was saying stuff about when people are busted with pot the goverment scores off money. Exactly! Since so many people do it, why not illegalize it and make shit loads of money that way.

Second about growing it, beer, and tabacco in your backyard. Ok, growing weed in your backyard all you need is some fertilizer, seeds, a good fertle piece of land, and water. You might need other things if you are a hardcore grower and want great results. My point is though, is all you need is the weed to sell the weed. With beer, you need a bunch of equipment, much more expensive than if you just bought a six pack. To make a cigerette you need alot more than just tabacco. (I'll leave that one strictly at that) Unless you plan to sell the tabacco strait you might make some profit on it. I guarentee not a lot though. (because it's easy to obtain, as well as weed would be if it were legal.) Weed also grows a lot easier than Tabacco. If 'they' made weed legal then there would really be know mass-corperate company that would sell it strait. There probably only would be ones that made shit out of it like medicine, food, paper, and other things. Why buy it strait when u can grow it out of ur backyard pretty easily.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 12:53pm

pimpjuice wrote:

nope never tryed it but if it was legal i would anyway tomatoes that get sould in stores or sould in quantaties get taxed that is what i metn tomatoes homegrow is nothing for personal use i mean

I think i got it!

Nope, I never tried it. If it was legal i would anyway. Tomatoes that get sold in stores or sold in quantities get taxed. That is what i meant. Tomatoes that are homegrown are not for personal use. Thats what i mean.

I think thats what he said.... Rolling Eyes

Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 1:11pm

the main reason i would want it to be legalized would be to cut out drug trafficing
instead of a cuban drug lord making money off of weed, i would rather the profit go to our government

Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 9:20pm

Hmm. I'll give you my thoughts one why its still illegal, herb that is. Can't tell you why it was made illegal originally, I may have known at one point.

Its because hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people have jobs to keep marijuana illegal. There are a lot of people who spoke against it that don't feel the same way not, but legalize marijuana and a lot of people are out of the job.

Another thing, JTP, yeah, second hand smoke from weed or ciggerates is bad. I thought that once too, 5 years ago. Thing is, car-exhaust and radiation from the sun is worse. Neutral

People make a bad name for marijuana. Well, alcohol is worse IMO. I've seen a lot of people who smoked weed that have become crack heads, but I've seen people who smoked it once or twice and did cocaine a year later. Thats usually coincidental. Sort of like spin you know. A lot of propaganda gets thrown together, some true, most not, and it all gets lumped together.

And the whole biased thing...

"Biased - A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment."

Sure, it may be biased. Maybe they didn't post the PROBLEMS with marijuana on the website, but that doesn't mean whats on there isn't true.

And here's a graph for you on the war on drugs. Keep in mind, the war on drugs is a giant mass of propaganda.

War on drugs = War on poverty.
Keeping poor people down. Drug users get less rights, student loans, etc.

Now, I'm not being predijuce that only poor people do drugs, but this is commonly believed by others. I've had friends who can barely pay rent that got hit on getting voting rights taken away, student loans taken away, and so forth. And another kid of a well known family, who has lots of money from his parents get bailed scotch-free. I don't have police reports for proof, but its there. It happens.

And yeah hoop, I know what you mean. Spoil yourself on some bomb as hell good herb, that's super expensive and the herb you first smoked, relativly cheap, got you high, doesn't get you high anymore. And drug-testing jobs are always trouble.

And lastly, the whole marijuana having a negative affect on your physically and mentally is a tough call. Enough red meat will kill you BEFORE lung cancer does, and marijuana hasn't made me anymore stupid. Same with a few of my friends. In fact I'd say the almost-alcoholic group of my friends is slower nowadays.

And if alcohol is legalized, then why the hell isn't marijuana? Either legalize em both or ban em both. I'd say alcohol is worse, considering it gives you a "superman explosive behaviour" where you think you can do anything and if someone says you can't you get pissed off. And that causes couples to beat eachother up, fights to happen in public, and then there is always drunk driving. Drunk driving happens ALL the time.

This topic is basically too touchy. Both sides think that the other is over-biased, and no wants to listen to opposing thoughts.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 9:25pm

errmm... ummm... well said Smile

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Yo martini im trying to convince this girl that pot isnt all that bad...can u post a link that can help back up my case

Posted: Sat Jun 5, 2004 8:45pm

bobjones wrote:

the main reason i would want it to be legalized would be to cut out drug trafficing
instead of a cuban drug lord making money off of weed, i would rather the profit go to our government

woah, didn't see this before. Yeah Bobjones I agree. Tax marijuana at like 5-10% and our government will cash in huge.

Posted: Sat Jun 5, 2004 10:00pm

cant smoke weed anymore (sadly) Basketball has taken over my life

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cornholio wrote:

cant smoke weed anymore (sadly) Basketball has taken over my life

u shouldnt smoke anyways thats too young of an age to start...ur only going downhill if u start that young

Posted: Sun Jun 6, 2004 1:11pm

Anthology wrote:

Yo martini im trying to convince this girl that pot isnt all that bad...can u post a link that can help back up my case

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/page.php?chapterid=7&id=18

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thx man

Posted: Sun Jun 6, 2004 1:46pm

14's never too early, rofl.

Posted: Sun Jun 6, 2004 6:21pm

wasnt early enough for R kelly....

Posted: Sun Jun 6, 2004 8:53pm

Swish!